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TMBL and the Designated Hitter
Posted by Allan Sellers on Saturday, Apr. 16th, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Okay, so we ARE NOT using the designated hitter.  I hate it...I hate it...I hate it.  

With that in mind, I think we will land on having three players (non-pitchers)

 

 - Jim Thome

 - Travis Hafner

 - Ken Griffey

And to quote the Durham Buils manager..."you throw the ball, you hit the ball, and you catch the ball".  Well, these guys only did 1 of 3.   

Should they just be dropped?

Should they be given a row in the DB for fielding but at a low Fielding Pct?

Al

 

Readers Comments

I see two first baseman and an outfielder.  Is there a DH in use in the minors?  I love, LOVE, *LOVE* the DH.  Orlando Cepeda was my homie!  Whatever David Ortiz has for fielding stats should be close for the first two guys.  If Manny "I'm Trying to Get Pregnant" Whatever His Name Was could be an OF, I think one of the greatest OF of all time can [still] be.  They shouldn't have their fielding ability lowered as one would think - well, Hafner is a career AL guy so maybe him.

Rob Baptiste on Monday, Apr. 18th, 2011 at 1:19 AM
 

The issue Rob is that they need enough games played at the OF/1B positions to not have the OOP penalty. Otherwise, where would you draw the line? Alex Rodriguez used to be a SS, and probably could still be decent at the position (not great, but passable). Ryan Braun used to be a 3b, and could probably place the position fairly well, but he's an OF now.

We need the penalty system in place to prevent folks from drafting players to play at any position. They play particular positions in the MLB, and we need to follow that - else pay a penatly for the player's fielding.

Rob Peterson on Monday, Apr. 18th, 2011 at 6:29 PM
 

Seems like age discrimination as there are at least 16 DHs, ummm make that 14, in the majors.  If there's a minimum [# of games at a position], and I believe it is 20, none of those DHs would avoid penalty so why single out the old guys who are all younger than me!  I don't recall what the OOP penalty is but if the other 10~15+ guys are subject to it anyway - these guys aren't much different.  I think I was wondering if there is a tiered OOP - none of those guys can play SS whatsoever but they're not going to make the same gaffs playing at their "old" positions.

Rob Baptiste on Monday, Apr. 18th, 2011 at 7:30 PM
 

I have never liked the DH position in the American League either.  Always seemed like a weakness of that league.  Don't get me wrong, I don't revel in watching pitchers get up to bat, but I'd still rather see that than a middle-aged, past-his-prime OF/1B/3B/etc. player who can only still hit the ball (he can no longer field and/or throw).

Simplified argument against the DH, but I think you get my point.

Brian Beerman on Monday, Apr. 18th, 2011 at 7:45 PM
 

Persuant to further conversations, while I hate the use of the DH, I think players like those listed above should be allowed to play a position.  Not sure why just those three players are singled out, but I am sure Thome could still play 1B if necessary, albeit at a lower SL.

Brian Beerman on Tuesday, Apr. 19th, 2011 at 7:45 AM
 

Pity on the fool who drafts Griffey, and if you saw the Timbers game Thursday, no pity in the rose city. Still... I think we should give these players the lowest fielding percentage for a player who played more than 100 games at their position. For Jim, that's 1B. I think that's 3B for T-Haf, and Griffey is an outfielder.

John Holden on Tuesday, Apr. 19th, 2011 at 9:51 PM
 

Somewhere, we've got some fielding documents that outline the OOP fielding penalties...

Rob Peterson on Thursday, Apr. 21st, 2011 at 6:17 PM
 

I think JH's idea is reasonable.  Can someone take a look at some numbers and make some recommendations?  My thought is that whatever the number is...drop it by .010 (so .995 foes to .985).  I could use a hand on finalizing this please.

Allan Sellers on Thursday, Apr. 21st, 2011 at 11:42 PM
 

Lowest Fielding % for players appearing in more than 100 games

1B - Adam Dunn - .990

2B - Skip Schumaker (?) - .973

3B - Aramis Ramirez - .939

C - Jason Kendall - .984

OF - Brennan Boesch (?) - .957

SS - Ian Desmond - .947

John Holden on Friday, Apr. 22nd, 2011 at 6:48 AM
 

Okay, I have created "fielding rows" for these three:

Jim Thome 1B .980 fielding pct.

Travis Hafner 3B .929 fielding pct.

Ken Griffey OF .947 Fielding pct.

Thanks for the numbers John.

These are now on the fielding file as of 2 minutes ago.

Al

Allan Sellers on Tuesday, Apr. 26th, 2011 at 12:21 AM
 

Pretty sure Hafner has only been a 1B.

Rob Baptiste on Wednesday, Apr. 27th, 2011 at 8:42 PM
 

Thanks Rob B.  I'll get that updated as 1B and send a note.

Allan Sellers on Wednesday, Apr. 27th, 2011 at 11:37 PM