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Season 2 Contracts - Add your questions here...
Posted by Allan Sellers on Sunday, Apr. 15th, 2012 at 10:32 PM

If you have questions feel free to ask on this thread...

Q - Dave Dohm asks:  To clarify, 1 year contract means you get the player this season and then he is released correct? It doesn't mean you get to retain them next season?

A - That is correct.   When you sign a player to a contract you get him for however many seasons the contract lasts.  So if you sign a player prior to the start of season 2 to a one-year deal, he plays for your team in season 2, then he is automatically released back to the free agent pool for drafting in season 3.

Al

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If you trade in players with 1year contracts do you get an option to extend or do they g back into the Free Agent pool?

Matt Cooper on Monday, Apr. 16th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
 

A player's contract moves with them when they are traded.   So if they are on a 1-year contract and are traded, the other team gets them for the rest of the season.  After the season they are placed in the free-agent pool for the next draft.

Allan Sellers on Tuesday, Apr. 17th, 2012 at 12:25 AM
 

Cool thanks for that Allan,   Out of interest what no of contracts will we be able to hand out in Season 3 the same?

Matt Cooper on Tuesday, Apr. 17th, 2012 at 1:24 PM
 

Good question.  What you have to start season 2 are the contracts you will always have.

1) A set of six 1-year deals to hand out to a player who was drafted the previous season in round X and above.

2) three 1-year, two 2-year, and one 3-year set of contracts.

So on this point, next season you can once again put three 1-year deals on ANYONE that was on your team the previous season provided their contract didn't just end.

Beyond that your two 2-year contracts and one 3-year contract will still be effective (but down to 1-year and 2-year deals remaining).

So what you start with in season 2 is the model going forward whereby essentially you'll be able to 'keep" 12 players per team per season by tying them to a new contract (or them playing out a contract you had previous signed them to).

Allan Sellers on Wednesday, Apr. 18th, 2012 at 9:35 PM
 

I've nearly got my 12 keepers sorted. But I'd like to know: I have six players pre-14th Draft and six post. Can I give one of the 14+ a 2/3yr contract and have four 1yr pre-14th contracts instead?

or is it strictly first 6 keepers from the 33 and then 6 additional 1yr contracts 14-33?

Roy Rolsten on Thursday, Apr. 19th, 2012 at 12:00 AM
 

Right ok that makes sense Allan,  in that case is it essential that we hand all the keeper contracts out?  For example some teams might look at there players and decide that they would rather keep the 3 year deal to hand out in Season 3.   Espically if all their players are old or had a poor MLB Season in 2011.   

I was wondering if the following might be better in Season 3 to hand out.

1x 3year deal

1x2 year deal  (only 1 as your 3 year deal handed out in Season 2 is now down to 2 years.)

1x1 year deal  (only 1 as your 2x2 year deals handed out in Season 2 are now down to 1 year)  

Matt Cooper on Thursday, Apr. 19th, 2012 at 8:02 AM
 

Hi Matt, we went through a few different variations of contract approaches last season to get to where we're at.   There are probably still  many permutations we could use in our situation too such as your suggestions.  However, in the interests of time/clarity we're going to stay with what we have.

For us contracts are really an alternative to just calling them "keepers".  We used to (in a previous incarnation of the league) have 5-7 keepers a year and I don't think we had a limit on how long they could stay.   Our approach here was to ensure we don't let the same team have the best players year after year after year.  The idea is that not everyone is a huge baseball fan and follows everything so to stay good a team also has to draft good each year.  

I'm open to discussion on 'delaying' the use of a contract type (so skipping the usage of a 3-year deal now and starting it with season 3).  Basically in this scenario though you'd be keeping < 12 players.

At the same time I really don't want this to get over-complicated as the contracts are really there to help us:

a) Manage keepers (preventing them from staying at teams for too long)

b) Helping us by keeping the six 2nd/3rd tier players so we don't have to draft for two months.

I realize you are just trying to find the boundaries of the rule to understand it and look for improvements/other approaches.  At this point though I think we need to try the approach we have and then have some good/candid discussion down the road on how we'd need to tweak it.

Allan Sellers on Thursday, Apr. 19th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
 

Hi Roy, 

Anyone on your roster right now can be given one of the two 2-year or one 3-year deals (no matter where they were drafted).  And anyone can be given those other three 1-year deals.   So your "best 6 players" would likely be getting these.

The additional keepers (six, all 1-year deals) must come from draft rounds 14+ last season.    Please ask again if I'm not answering your question.  

Allan Sellers on Thursday, Apr. 19th, 2012 at 3:13 PM
 

No problem Allan.   Will be probably using all 6 keepers anyway.   My point is that anyone drafted in the 1st rd this season will only be at your club for a max of 2 seasons.   It devalues 1st rd picks this year and subsequent seasons wont be an issue as keeper contracts will be running out.   More than happy with the system just trying to work out my options re picks.

Matt Cooper on Thursday, Apr. 19th, 2012 at 4:25 PM
 

That's a good point, it does create that sort of a scenario.  We can definitely revisit some of this down the road for tweaks.

Allan Sellers on Thursday, Apr. 19th, 2012 at 5:39 PM