Injuries (Draft)

From Olmec Jaguar

Please consider what's on the forum and start to identify how we should use injuries. Keep an eye on the Secondary attributes as some of those will definitely impact when injuries might occur. I'm also interested in having a varied set of injuries and also a range of how long the player is out for. Should we also have "short 5 minute injuries" in games too where a player goes to the sideline...but after some magic spray comes back on?

-Al

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(begin draft here)

Injury Chance

The chance of a player to get injured must depend on fitness level, age, fatigue, total aggression of rival team and aggression level of the player committing the foul.
--WickedWillie 14:13, 2 December 2007 (CST)

I particularly like the idea of limiting injury on the team playing Aggression to the fouling player. That would mirror the increased risk to that player of being cautioned or sent off.

Andybushby 14:50, 2 December 2007 (CST)

Injury Types & Duration

Below is the start of some ideas for an injury table. If a player is injured, these are the types of injuries and the timeframe the player may be out for.

Injury table:

Injury Type	Out of Action for
Muscle Pull	1-2 weeks
Head laceration	3-10 minutes

Any thoughts on getting a "knock" which reduces ability for a couple of minutes while they run it off?

I don't have the skills to add to the table, but the injury lists in the Jaguar forum would be a good starting place for the actual injuries. We could just process those to decide what absence each injury entails.

Regarding running off injuries, don't forget that players receiving treatment (except for goalkeepers) should leave the field anyway, and wait to be called back on by the referee. It's just a matter of deciding how long that absence would be for the lesser injuries.

Andybushby 14:53, 2 December 2007 (CST)

Sure, don't worry about even getting them in the table, we can pretty things up later...just put in the injury and then an estimated duration and we'll get it all cleaned up later.

Allansellers 15:10, 2 December 2007 (CST)

First, Mark's list:

MSWL currently has alot of "thigh bruise" injuries (EL -4)

Variations could be:-

     metatarsal strain
     groin strain
     strained hamstring
     hamstring pull
     twisted knee
     ankle knock
     shoulder knock
     minor cartilage tear

bit more serious (-8 or -12 EL)

     broken metatarsal
     fractured metatarsal
     ruptured achilles
     achilles tendon damage

more serious still (-20 or -30 EL)

     dislocated shoulder
     cartilage tear
     knee arthroscope
     cracked rib 

Then some stuff from Steve:

TYPE

                       Com Tra

Muscular strain/rupture 35% 42% Ligament sprain/rupture 20% 18% Muscle contusion 9 4 Tissue bruising 7 3 Fracture 4 3 Other(back, nerve, pain) 3 5 Tendinitis 3 5 Inflam synovitis 3 4 Meniscal tear 2 3 Hernia 1 2 Overuse 1 2 Dislocation 1 1 Periostisis 1 1 Cut 2 1 Chondal lesion 1 1 Capsular tear 1 0 Paratendinitis 0 1 Bursitis 0 1 Blister 0 0 Skin abrasion 0 0 Non classified 3 2 (code used for formatting com=competition, tra = training)

and

WHERE

          C  T

Thigh 24 22 Knee 17 16 Ankle 19 14 Leg 12 13 Groin 6 16 Neck/Spine 5 7 Foot 6 4 Arm 3 2 Hip 2 2 Abdomen 1 2 Head 2 0 Chest 2 1 Toe 1 1

WHEN

0-15 mins 8%

16-30 14 31-45 24 46-60 9 61-75 19 76-90 26

HOW

                   C   T

Running 16 26 Tackled 20 7 Other non contact 8 11 Tackling 12 6 Twist/turn 6 12 Collision 8 3 Stretching 6 6 Kicked 6 3 Shooting 3 8 Landing 4 3 Passing 3 4 Jumping 2 3 Other contact 1 2 Falling 1 1 Diving 0 2 Heading 1 0 Use of elbow 1 0 Hit by ball 0 1 Dribbling 0 0 Throwing 0 0 Not specified 3 2

RECURRENT within same season

       Strain   Sprain

Thigh 63 0 Ankle 0 76 Groin 18 0 Lower leg 15 0 Knee 0 19 Others 4 5

7% of all injuries were recurrent, 66% were strains (48%) or sprains (18%)

missed training days 25.1 average compared to initial 19.1 for same injury

That ought to be a good start.

Andybushby 15:27, 12 December 2007 (CST)