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Summary (Boxscore) - Key Info Thread
Posted by Allan Sellers on Sunday, Mar. 13th, 2022 at 4:53 PM

Experienced coaches, please feel free to grab a snippet from a boxscore and help a new coach out.  You should just be able to copy/paste it in here (using a screenshot type tool you can then crop to show your ideas).  

New coaches, you can do the same.  Feel free to ask questions about a summary/boxscore. 

Readers Comments

Little things can add up.  

Portland had 5 Service Errors (SE) while St. Charles had 15.  A service error is basically where the ball is served into the net or out of bounds so essentially a free point for the other team.

St. Charles had two low skilled SRV (Sv) players: Dvorak (7) and Klein (8).  These two made 5 SE's each (10 of the 15 St. Charles service errors).  

Portland also had a low skilled MB with a SRV (Sv) rating of 9.  HOWEVER, since a Libero can serve for one of the MBs, Portland did that and had Austin (14 SRV) serve.  He had 1 error, but also served it in .952 of of the time and his team win 13 points on his serve alone. 

 

Allan Sellers on Sunday, Mar. 13th, 2022 at 5:06 PM
 

First thing I notice is the rookie mistake from the St Charles' coach picking which MB to take out for the L to serve. If you look at the serve scores you see Torres didn't serve but he is better in every stat than Dvorak. It was probably a mis-click. Always check your orders. I made a similar error last season where I picked an MB that wasn't playing so my L didn't serve - ironically against St Charles. We still won.

Steve Turner on Sunday, Mar. 13th, 2022 at 5:08 PM
 

How much attention should we be paying to the team and individual attack, serve, and set percentages. I assume with all of these the higher percentages are better? How do I read the rest of my team's stats, i.e. what does each column's absolute number heading stand for and how are the ratio columns calculated? Just trying to understand the stats pages. From what I can see of my team, I may be wrong, but on attack we were strong but on defense we were awful. Correct?

Mike Jaffe on Sunday, Mar. 13th, 2022 at 7:45 PM
 

Thanks for this.

Quick check of my understanding

TA = Total Attempts I think.

So Dominic Manning had 26 attempts to kill, 8 successful and 11 in errors.  The other 7 were returned. Is that correct?

For Server what is SP?  (SA (ACE) , SE (OUT) , TA (Number of serves?))

Also for Block what are BS, BA (attempts?).? 

Finally for Receive I cannot work out RT and SR?

 

James Tucker on Sunday, Mar. 13th, 2022 at 7:47 PM
 

I'll answer James first.

Yes TA is total attempts. Manning stats are correct Pct is (Kills-Errors)/Attempts

SP is serve points - now I'm not 100% sure if this means points when he served (so an ace, a return attack that was hit out or blocked) or also includes return attacks that were dug and the serving side won the point. The rest are correct.

BS is solo blocks - rare and only happens when the setter sets a 3 and is a one on one block. BA is assisted blocks - not 100% sure how this scores. Somethimes the match report says all 3 blockers and sometimes just 1 when there would be 2 (because the set rating was 2) .

On receive 3 is how many Excellent returns the receiver made (see the Support menu). RT is the average of all returns from 0 to 3 and SR is serve receives.

In that game Manning had 30 receives, 15 passed for 3,  8 pass 2,  5 pass 1 and 2 pass 0 (RE - aced). This adds up to 66 - divided by 30 = 2.20 RT

Steve Turner on Sunday, Mar. 13th, 2022 at 10:03 PM
 

That should say excellent passes the receiver made.

Steve Turner on Sunday, Mar. 13th, 2022 at 10:09 PM
 

Mike - I'm assuming you're talking about your home page with the team offensive and team defensive stats.

By the way you can click/tap on the header and it will sort in order by that stat (tap again to reverse the order)

On both you see xp and sp. xp is experience points and used after the last session to increase skills. sp is sets played

On attack: k is kills, k/s is kills per set. e is errors (hit out), ta is total attacks and pct is (k-e)/ta. Your Sr setter had 8 attempts in his 2 games getting 4 kills,3 errors and 1 dug despite a 15 atk skill. Your So setter had 4 attempts in his game all getting dug.  Compare that to the same attk skilled MBs and you can se why you are advised to play setter at I to avod setter dumps.

On serve: pts is points won on your serve, sa is serve aces, se is serve errors, sa/s is aces per set, ta is total serves and pct is percentage of serves in. In general you'd expect the latter to to increas with serve skill but this being Olmec. I see your L with a srv of 9  got .923 but the other with a srv of 13 only scored .792

On setting: a is assists (kill on his set), a/s assists per set and ta is total sets. Note how little your OH sets.

On block: s is solo, a is assisted, t is total, be is block error (as far as I'm aware this is cosmetic only in that if the attacker gets a kill it is random whether it's reported as a blocker into the net, scored off the blocker and out, a kill on a defender who fails to dig or a straight kill) and blk/s is blocks per set. I don't know if a 3 man block records as an assisted block for all 3 players. I'd have to read through a whole game report to check this.

On dig it's digs and digs per set

On receive: 3 is excellent passes, rt is average of all passes, rcv is number of attempts, e is errors (was aced) and pct is percent of passes made.

Note how Baker has only 39 receives despite playing 9 sets compared to the OHs who played 9 or 10 sets. Baker is your best receiver and if the servers are good they will try to serve away from him. And I think if a L has the same rcv as an OH I'm fairly certain the L is labelled the best receiver. If you look at my ststs you'll see Adrian Ball with 64 receives - he got picked out a lot. Weak OHs are a liability so get their receive up first.

Steve Turner on Sunday, Mar. 13th, 2022 at 10:47 PM
 

Thanks Steve, I'm still trying to digest how this works.

Mike Jaffe on Sunday, Mar. 13th, 2022 at 11:46 PM
 

Thanks Steve - I also made the rookie mistake of not even using the Libero to serve for any MB.

I'd seen the box on the orders page but didn't think to work out what it was for. 

Roy Rolsten on Monday, Mar. 14th, 2022 at 1:20 AM
 

Thanks Steve, all makes sense.

James Tucker on Monday, Mar. 14th, 2022 at 11:50 AM
 

Thanks to Steve for helping with all of the details above.  

Basic Stats

I found a site that covers 'many' of the stats and added it to our support page and here:

https://www.olmec.org/tmvl/stat_definitions.pdf

This will not cover everything.  The ones it does not we will try to update it further.

Headers Tell You The Stat Meaning

Use your cursor to hover over the Header for tables and in most cases it will show you the meaning (what used to be called a 'tool tip').

For example if you want to find out what the RT means for receiving and you hover over that you'll see "Average Serve Receive Receive Rating 0-3 scale - the higher the better".  (no I don't know why I repeat the word "receive" in that tool tip...need to fix it).

That may help in some but not all cases so yes keep asking and I'll try to update the pdf noted above when I can to help further.

Another one:

Serving - SP

This is "the number of points won when this player is serving."

That (like the receiving rating) isn't in the typical real volleyball stats.  Max and I added it because it starts to show you how effective a server is.  If  your player is winning a TON of points on his serve, he probably has a good SRV rating but also it may inform  you how and where to put them in your lineup (like zone I or zone II) if they are the most effective there.

 

 

 

 

Allan Sellers on Monday, Mar. 14th, 2022 at 8:44 PM